• Anonymous

    Sounds great! :D

    • Anonymous

      Yes. Even if it does wind up being a little derivative, I’m sure it’ll be good fun.

  • Anonymous

    The cybermen are being treated badly by moffat. WHY MOFFAT WHY!

    • Anonymous

      It’s not his fault. He didn’t write this episode.

    • http://timelordeleven.blogspot.com Rory McKeon

      He should ask someone to write a properly good Cyberman episode like Tom MacRae did.

    • Anonymous

      I love how the famous villains are still there but aren’t an essential part of the over-arching plot of the series, leaving room for new villains like ‘The Silence.’ The daleks wanting to destroy everything and the Cyber Men wanting to convert everything can get a little old.

      • Anonymous

        Your all right but I just want one episode with the cybermen featuring heavily.

        • Anonymous

          But who knows if they will slip some really neat clues in there just to be contrary

      • alex_494

        True dat.

        It would be good if in the future there is an overarching story with whoever behind it, and the Daleks/Cybermen/Sontarans/whatever show up in standalone episodes between arc-heavy ones. So the Daleks/Cybermen are never associated with the story arc, they’re doing their own damn thing =D

    • Anonymous

      Here, here! Remember the show was built on the backs of these enemies, amongst others, and not rubbish like the weeping Angels, prisoner zero and the Silence. They deserve better stories than just lame comedy vehicles for that idiot James Corden. I’m actually wondering whether to bother with this episode or not now that I know my questions (that would take all of about five minutes or less to address) wont be answered.

      • Anonymous

        “If I have ever sen far, it is because I stood on the backs of giants” Isaac Newton, talking about Galileo. I will give you that the Cyberman were a powerful group back in the days of old who, but as everyone will keep comparing the two performances and use, I dont think they will ever be used like they were in Old Who. The closest we have had was in season two, and that was a great episode, but too me it lacked something. 

        No I feel like the Cybermen have served their purpose, they brought the show to what it is now, and now their purpose is smaller, to give way for a new generation of monsters, new threats. Will they all be as amazing as the cybermen once were? No. But sometimes, every once in a while, you may find that diamond in the ruff. Maybe it is this episode and the small amount of cybermen, or maybe it’s a monster that hasn’t come yet. We’ll just have to find out. For me it was the silence and the vashta nerada, or even the thing in midnight. Or even House or the handbots, I usually prefer those monsters that are psychological, omnipotent, or just misguided. It just seems like they need more thought to defeat.

        Who knows, maybe you will never find your monster in new who, maybe the new effects just downplayed the effects or the scariness, or you just hate every single writer who shows up. But I would still encourage you to watch it, just for that small chance that it will be your episode, with your monster.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t hate every writer that shows up. Just Stephen Moffat and the usual hype that surrounds his (in my opinion) below average plotlines, monsters, characters and concepts.I enjoyed reading your post and you talk a lot of sense but all I want is an explanation as to why these Cybermen are here and if they’re cybus cybermen or our own universes cybermen. I feel that’s not a lot to ask after the amount of time I’ve invested in a show, even a show that has deteriorated considerably since Stephen Moffat took over. people will moan and argue with me saying that but I really don’t care. It’s my opinion and It’s not going to change just because a bunch of people I don’t know don’t like it.Many things have been neglected in the show since he turned up, the issue’s I have with the Cybermen just one of them, and they’ve been neglected purely so he can peddle his rubbish to a target audience that is now mostly for the under 11’s. It’s essentially castrated the show and I’m literally counting down the moments until he leaves and we get a writer who honours the show with both old and new elements rather than just catering to the kids.I can now guarantee that someone is gonna say “But Dr Who’s always been for kids” No. No it has not. It is now though, with competitions and magazines aimed squarely at the Ben 10 generation and it’s sad. Not that I have anything against kids liking the show but everyone else has been neglected. I’m actually amazed when I hear someone moan about how “Complex” And “Dark” Moffat’s plots are because to me they’re complete and utter kiddie rubbish that anyone whose ego hasn’t disappeared up their rear end could write better than.Anyway bowtie rant over, none of it was aimed at you but I just felt the need to explain my stance somewhat.

          • Anonymous

            Please don’t apologize for ranting. Ranting is the best thing to do, more so when there is someone to listen. All of your points make good sense and I see where you are coming from, and I see your point. Moffat is over-hyped. As much as I enjoy his work, there are so many better writers. RTD wasn’t actually as bad as everybody seems to think, and Toby Whithauser (sp?) was an amazing writer. I would personally think we would be privileged to have Neil Gaiman back, but I would doubt it.

            Now your stance on the whole dark or kid show, and I almost feel like Doctor Who was slipping further there with RTD than Moffat. I feel like the farting monsters and the balls of fat were purely for the children to laugh, while Moffat wants the children to be afraid. He says so himself, he thinks its for kids. What I like, is he doesn’t totally give into it with his plot, it’s just the doctors insanity that I find childish, and I like the insanity  Who knows, maybe my tolerance for childishness is a bit higher than yous, but you make some excellent, excellent points. And never, apologize for ranting.

          • Anonymous

            Well bowtie I’ve been moaned at in the past for ranting and in no way whatsoever did I want you to think that I was ranting at you for your post. I’ll agree that a lot of RTD’s “Monsters” If you want to call them that were kiddie. But I could overlook them because they were few and far inbetween.

            I too would love Neil Gaiman to become a permanent writer for the show but alas I think he already has an entire other career to think about lol. I heard rumours that Toby Whitehouse *might* Take over after Moffat and I hope that’s true because I really enjoyed the god complex.

      • Anonymous

        You don’t like the Weeping Angels?

        • Anonymous

          It’s not that I don’t like them Caleb I’m just not impressed by them. And I can’t see why anyone else would be either, but to each their own.

          • Anonymous

            But surely you don’t think they are *rubbish* though?

          • Anonymous

            Well yeah I do a little, I’ll give you that they were certainly out of the ordinary when they first appeared but after the two parter from series five they just seemed a bit daft to me for some reason. I’ve never found them scary either.

          • Anonymous

            Well, fair enough. So what do you think of the Silence?

          • Anonymous

            Cool concept, their design has also grown on me a lot. And I mean a lot! They still kinda look like testicles in suits but I’m gonna wait till I know some more about them before I give you a definite answer.

            They don’t scare me either though sorry lol.

    • alex_494

      The Pandorica Opens was good to the Cybermen (seriously I’m now in awe of anything that can fight with a head and a single arm in about six different ways).

      And it was nice that they got an appearance in AGMGTW but I think if they got involved they would have to be villains and Kovarian probably wouldn’t ally herself with Cybermen.

      Conservation of the good aliens is probably better than overuse, as we have seen previously with the Daleks. What we have seen of the Cybermen is good: I say quality over quantity =D

    • Anonymous

      I thought they were done well in the Pandorica Opens, but NuWho in general doesn’t quite know what to do with the giant tin soldiers. They had a far more sinister motivation in the old series, where they wanted to turn everyone into the universe into more Cybermen.

      Now, they’re just Dalek-lite.

  • Anonymous

    I loved ‘The Lodger’, sadly that was probably one of the least popular episodes among the critics, so what if the story and menace was fairly weak, sometimes you just have to relax and enjoy the “light-hearted romp.” Can’t wait to see this episode, having the Doctor working in a shop sounds just as funny as ‘The Lodger’ was.

    • alex_494

      I agree about relaxing and enjoying, I tend to take that stance on episodes that some see as somewhat good but not great, like Curse of the Black Spot. Sure it wasn’t a masterpiece but it was a fun episode with pirates. Although I didn’t like the fact that Rory (being a nurse) tells Amy to perform CPR by “doing what (she) has seen in movies hundreds of times”. And that he remains “dead” for about ten seconds after she stops doing CPR on him. And that the Doctor just sits back and watches (he could have gone off to the medical bay or something, or at LEAST encouraged Amy).

  • Marlena

    wonder what this ep will be look
    mostly looking forward to the ending and next time trailer

    • Anonymous

      Me too! :D

    • Anonymous

      If there is a Next Time trailer…

      • Anonymous

        When Doctor Who TV saw it there was one.

  • Anonymous

    cooooool

  • rebecca smith

    boss episode

  • Anonymous

    The Lodger in my book is 8/10, so this is going to a easy likable episode.

  • Anonymous

    And this is where it begins…

    • Marlena

       you again! *loads shotgun*

      • alex_494

        Wait! You can’t shoot, we’re in a state of temporal grace! *crosses fingers*

        • Marlena

          thats a clever lie!

  • Anonymous

    Looks like ‘The Lodger’, only this time it actually has its fair share of the budget. If it’s anything like last years episode, then I know I’ll love it.

  • Anonymous

    So still no explanation as to why these Cybermen are here then or whether they’re cybus Cybermen or are own universes cybermen? When will a writer work for the show who takes it, and more importantly it’s previous plotlines, seriously. It’s bad enough I have to make do with that idiot James Corden in this episode but now the news the ending is another simple one as well…great!

    • alex_494

       I believe the general consensus among the writers is that the Cybermen from Pandorica Opens onward are this Universe’s Cybermen, but that it hasn’t been stated onscreen to avoid confusion (or it’s just been quietly ignored).

      Anyway the recent Cybermen have massive fleets of ships and appear to have whole bodies within them (i.e. a whole skull rather than just a brain) so they are augumented people rather than brain transplants, hence Mondasian.

  • Pdurston

    I do think the Cybermen as of late have been underplayed somewhat. Resulting in cameos, not being there that much, not even being a force to be reckoned with anymore, like the overuse of the Daleks (which takes some of their sheen anyway). The Cybermen have appeared in a lot of episodes (almost as much as the Daleks in new – Who), but their presence as of Series 5 and 6 haven’t been felt that widely with me. I want to see them where their portrayed with a bit more material to demonstrate with, instead of small appearances.

  • 10th_rules

    Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool =)

  • http://untoldstories-awritersjourney.blogspot.com/ TardisTraveler10

    I really liked The Lodger and the cybermats from Classic Who, so I think I’m going to like this episode a lot.

  • Rebekah Cooling

    I’m really glad Craig (JC) is coming back in this episode! Their relationship is great – I LOVE IT! :D Sooo looking forward to the episode! :P

    • Merlinfan

      I am also glad that craig is back, cause i think that James Corden and Matt Smith have a great friendship on screen as well as off screen. I think that this episode will be a nice and funny episode, as well as scary, as the doctors worst foe is back. It should be a great epsiode, i can’t wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    jWhere did the posts from God Complex and Riversong go?  None of them is one the sites

  • Anonymous

    Is it just me or have all the comments on Doctor Who TV vanished? Like there’s no comments section anymore?

    • http://profiles.google.com/mothman.dog Mothman’s Dog

      Yeah, what’s going on?

    • Mark

      yeah i realised that. It dragged me here.

    • http://profiles.google.com/brainlock72 Brain Lock

      I’ve seen that a couple times in the last week or two, Calebxy.

      bugs in the system?
      “Upgrades”?
      or maybe it was….sorry, what was I saying? Nevermind.

      • Anonymous

        lol

  • Anonymous

    Is it just me or have all the comments on Doctor Who TV vanished? Like there’s no comments section anymore?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Claudio-Catino/100000082110136 Claudio Catino

    One last trip eh?

    • Anonymous

      Indeed.

      • Merlinfan

        Yeah your right.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, but I thought that this episode was brilliant. The Cybermen were not ‘wasted’ either, mainly because there was a Cybermat. Nice to see again. Even though I was born in 1999. Time travel – see!

    • Merlinfan

      Yeah i thought that this epsiode was brilliant as well because of James Corden, it was totally cool to see James corden nearly turn into a cyberman, i loved it sooooooooooo much, nothing is the same without James Corden, although next week looks awesome as well i can’t wait, then the Christmas special will be here, soooooo much is happening, yay yay yay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!